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What happened in the Garden of Eden? #Evewasframed

Updated: 7 days ago

In 2021, I discovered the Eden Podcast, discussing the correct translation of Geneses 3:16 and its implications about women and men being equal partners.


Dr. Joy Fleming found that God promised the woman she would experience increased “sorrowful-toil” (or ‘itsabon, in Hebrew) on the infertile ground after God’s cursed the ground because of the man, v. 17). God also promised the woman increased fertility or “conception” (or heron, in Hebrew) and that her Offspring would crush the head of the serpent-tempter. God did not curse Eve or Adam, who were each made in God's image and each tasked with ruling over the earth. God did not curse Eve's offspring, including us. God cursed the snake and the soil:

-The curse on the land would multiply the sorrowful toil of the land for both women and men; and -The curse on the snake would mean enmity between the snake (Satan) and the women's Offspring (Jesus).

Blaming Eve for the Fall of mankind, or saying that all women should be subjugated is an incorrect interpretation of God's word. #evewasframed


Dr. Joy Fleming wrote about these ideas in her book: Man and Woman in Biblical Unity: Theology from Genesis 2-3 (2013)


Her husband, Bruce C. E. Fleming, expands on these ideas in writing the books:


The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3: God Didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or Limit Woman in Any Way (2021)


Beyond Eden: Ephesians 5-6: The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ (2021)


Bruce C. E. Fleming writes that God’s words to the woman, correctly translated, show the grace and plan of God regarding the woman. Like the man, she would experience increased sorrow working the cursed ground, but she would be blessed with the ability to bear offspring. What does Genesis 3:16 actually say? Bruce C. E. Fleming reveals the true meaning of the original language this way:

"I will surely multiply (1) your sorrowful toil in fieldwork and (2) your conception. With effort you will bring forth children. Your [loving] desire [is] to your husband but he [is rebelliously ruling over himself and] will rule over you."

Bruce C. E. Fleming also uses the academic work of his wife, Dr. Joy Fleming, to create the Eden Podcast. I enjoy listening to The Eden Podcast where they discuss what the Bible says about women and men, based on a correct understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden.

Season One: Genesis 2-3

Season Two: Ephesians 5-6

Season Three: 1 Timothy 2

Season Four: 1 Corinthians 11 and 14 and 1 Peter 3


In this media, Bruce Fleming explains how the translation of Genesis has implications for seven key Bible passages on women and men.


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Website: www.tru316.com

Youtube channel: Tru316

The Eden Podcast


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